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Holistic Information Security: From Risk to Diligence and Back Again

March 14th, 2010 admin 6 comments

I am a big proponent of risk management and risk-based security.  I also work (mainly) in a very specific, yet large, segment of information security that pertains to the payment card industry (PCI).  Since I’ve been involved in this space for a long time I sometimes suffer from the curse of knowledge.  This helps when analyzing information and determining which is valuable and which is not.

Two weeks ago at Mini-Metricon, Pete Lindstrom said, “we have solved the problem of information security over 200 times, the problem is we don’t know which one is right.”  He went on to explain that different people are experts in their own domain.  The curse of knowledge hits me in that of all the information available in the payment card industry, I know which is useful to me and which should be discarded or is more applicable to another individual.  I do this without thinking and as a result my mental concept of risk management is shifted from that of others in the general public.  My network includes a strong background in the PCI industry of over 6 years and the opportunity to work closely with many smart people including Alex Hutton, Adam Shostack, Branden Williams, Walt Conway, Paul Guthrie, Andrew Jamieson, Anton Chuvakin, Lucas Zaichkowski, Martin McKeay, and many many other industry experts.  Having access to this holistic source of information provides me a wealth of information that others may simply not have.  (It also helps that my job involves QA and I end up reading hundreds of reports or case studies every year.)  Also, it’s not a point in time, but I call upon these individuals all the time to help shape and crystallize my understanding of the ever changing landscape of risk.

Two years ago when I met up with Adam Shostack at RSA and as we talked about the industry he explained to me that what we need as an industry is more data in order to form proper conclusions.  The main idea being that the more data you have on a specific topic the more easily you, and everyone else, can make a rationale decision about how to best protect it.  The problem with the lack of data is the ability to trust the limited data and conclusions you want so very much to rely on.

This is why when I finally met up with Donn Parker I asked him to explain his concept of diligence-base security vs risk-based security [PDF].  In a nutshell, Donn explained that risk-based approaches are nothing more than data alchemy as there is simply not enough public data available to make any sort of statistically significant conclusion when you assume that the entire population of data breaches or security failures (realistically unknown) is vastly larger.  Indeed it is very difficult to measure and make statistical decisions about the unknown-unknowns.

The example I like to reference is that of scanning for rogue devices (i.e. wireless access points) on a computer network.  Detecting rogue devices (unknowns) is very different than examining known devices, and logic breaks down when trying to apply traditional sampling methods to this unknown landscape.  Traditionally, sampling of a population is done when the population is uniform, or in some way known.  In general, the more uniform the population the smaller the sample size may be to determine a statistical conclusion.  The problem with rogue devices is that the population is unknown.  If you try to sample from an ever changing population the results you get at any point in time may be statically non-reflective of the total population.

Mr. Parker advocates that since we do not have a population of data breaches significant to the total number, and since the total number and type are ever changing, there is no scientific way to apply risk-based controls.  Instead he advocates a diligence-based approach towards security.  Since we cannot measure and thus appropriately apply risk-based metrics we should take the agreed upon “best practice” controls we have and be diligent about their application and maintenance.

Arguably, one could take the same cynical approach towards the traditional baseline “best practice” baselines such as BS7799, ISO 27001, ISO 27005 (for that matter the entire ISO 27000 series), or even HIPAA (HHS guidelines), or GLBA (FFIEC guidelines).  How do we know that these are sound practices upon which we should build an information security program?  With technologies changing and evolving over time there are many different ways to envision security.

So if we cannot base our foundation on best practices, and we cannot apply risk-based controls, what then is left?  This is where I propose holistic information security.  The diligence method is based on factors such as budget, management directives, staff talent and availability, and organizational policies.  Although this sounds right from a business perspective, following these methods provides a ‘good enough for the current business’ which may or may not be the best direction for the business to protect itself.  Arguably, one cannot know what the best direction is for the business due to lack of data.  See also, chicken-and-the-egg.

I’ve watched over the years as analysts, experts, and individuals claim to have the correct answer, when in fact all they have is their one piece of the pie of truth.  Instead, I advocate taking a holistic approach towards security and assimilating as much data as you can before making a decision.  Talk with as many stake holders as possible so you can elevate your level of knowledge about your industry from amateur to expert.  Only by reviewing others’ piece of the pie can you approach seeing the bigger picture.  In fact, Donn Parker advocates this in his ISSA Journal 2008 paper by proposing that practitioners of the art of information security seek out other sources of information from other organizations of comparable size, type, structure, and threat exposure.

If we are actually dealing with an unknown-unknown that we cannot measure or (honestly) see the entirety of, then we are left with only one option.  The only option left is to assimilate as much of the whole as we can.  The goal should be to “seek first to understand and then to be understood“.  This approach enables us to make more informed decisions about what is valuable information and what is fodder.

Update: I also highly recommend you watch Alex Hutton’s Security B-Sides talk on, Risk Management – Time to blow it up and start over? [slides]

10 Fallacies in PCI Conversations

June 9th, 2009 admin 8 comments

Since my goal is to make your arguments better, here are a few of my personal problems I have with the current PCI-Wars debate.  For those not familiar with logical reasoning, please read up on some of these fallacies.

The following is a list of unbalanced flaws in conversational logic that should be avoided when having a conversation with me about PCI.

1. Companies got hacked so PCI must not work

People like to point at recent data security breaches and claim that because companies have been compromised then of course the standard must not work.  Under the same logic if any company gets compromised then the entire information security industry must have somehow failed us.  People forget to remember that it’s all about: people, process, and technology, not just the industry standard.

2. The PCI DSS is all about “risk transference”

I have to restrain myself physically when people say those naughty two words.  Let’s take a walk down the life cycle of a fraudulent transaction for a moment, completely independent of PCI or compliance.

Merchant “A” accepts a fraudulent payment card and delivers the product to the client.  If a cardholder denies the charge, it’s a charge back and Merchant A must absorb the fraud.  (This is why merchants should maintain strong fraud reduction measures.) In the event of a CPP designation on Merchant “B”, the Issuer may apply for reimbursement from the compromised Merchant B.  To do so they need to apply, through the card brands and Acquiring bank, for reimbursement.  If Merchant B can cover the cost then they will pay for the fraud due to their losing data.  If Merchant B cannot cover the cost, then responsibility resides on their Acquiring bank to pay for the fraud.  In many instances it’s not the compromised merchant that pays for all the externalities resultant from lost or exposed payment card data.

So you can see, a compromised merchant is usually the last one to pay for fraud resulting from data that they lost.  They have always been responsible and PCI DSS does not change that in any way.  Instead, the PCI DSS serves as a metric by which the Acquiring banks can begin to measure their potential exposure to financial loss.

3. PCI compliance is all about making money for someone else

Whoa there cowboy!  Remember that the card brands, issuers, and acquirers all spend money on trying to keep merchants and service providers secure.  They put time, money, and resources into developing the program and educating others about it.

The participants: the QSAs, ASVs, infosec vendors, etc. all already existed before PCI ever came alone, they were just called “security consultants”, “Internet vulnerability scanners”, and “product vendors”.  Changing the name of a company doesn’t change the game.  Most merchants forget a small fact that every level of merchant is allowed to self assess if they wish.  Level 1 merchants can use their internal audit group or a QSA, and Levels 2-4 all use the Self-Assessment Questionnaire (SAQ).  The reason companies pay consultants to help them out is the same reason I hire an electrician to rewire my house.  They have experience with it.

I’ve got a deal for you.  You promise to never lose or expose payment card data then I’ll wave my hand and say “this isn’t the non-compliant company you are looking for.”

4. Credit card theft is part of identity theft

Pardon? Ok, in the metaphysical world where everyone sings coombyya then, yes, credit card theft is part of identity theft.  In that same world so is automobile theft, library card theft, and friends using your Costco membership.  I read recently that, “The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) estimates that 50 billion is lost annually due to identity theft and credit card fraud.”  Without context we have no way of understanding this number.  We need to define “identity theft” or else we should include the automobile theft statistics, because if someone steals your car and gets ticketed, isn’t that your identity as well?

Credit card theft has so little impact on the cardholders that almost every issuing bank waves the $50 service fee, and reissues a card within 7-10 days.  If someone steals my SSN, and uses it, the cost to me could take years of work to reverse.

5. PCI just enables checklist security

Yes, just like every other security checklist that ever came before it.  That’s like saying a wheel is only a tool.  Correct, but if that wheel is a racing tire and put on a Formula-1 car it can do good things.  If you hang that wheel on your front door hoping it will ward off evil, I suggest altering your philosophical beliefs.  Companies need to learn how to use the PCI DSS to enable security within their payment card environment and not follow it alone.

The problem occurs on the implementation side when companies with no prior security adopt the PCI DSS as their information security management system, which it was never designed to be (IMHO).  Companies must integrate the PCI DSS into their overall security framework and not use it to replace one.

6. A “compliant” company was compromised so the standard must not work

This is not true.  Please see also: compliance vs validation.  The Visa website provides a “Global List of PCI DSS Validated Service Providers“.  I don’t see the word compliant in there once.  In fact, if we open the PDF and read the first sentence it says, “The companies listed below were validated as being PCI DSS compliant by a QSA as of the ‘VALIDATION DATE’.”  What this means is that a company validated they were compliant one day of the year.  What that company does the other 364 days of the year is an unknown, until the forensic investigation team shows up.

7. Merchants are required to maintain the PAN

Ugh… In late 2007 60 Minutes did a broadcast that contained some misinformation.  One of the people being interviewed claimed that the credit card brands require companies to store the Primary Account Number (PAN), one of the basic elements in authorizing credit card transactions.  I know one person who had to restrain himself from throwing things at his TV after hearing this.  The payment card brands (i.e. Visa) had long since changed their rules and do not require merchants to retain the PAN after authorization and settlement of transactions.  This informaiton has not been widely disseminated to the pupulation.

Regarless, this is still a weak argument, since we know that the vast majority of payment card fraud has nothing to do with just the PAN, but instead the resale and illegal use of sensitive authentication data (track data, CVV2, PIN block).  And this, everyone universally agrees, should not be retained or available to hackers.

8. PCI is reactionary and not preventative

The PCI SSC has stated they will update the PCI standards on a 2-year basis.  When updating these standard, I assume, they will use data breach information and feedback from the industry itself to keep the document as up-to-date and usefull as possible.  When we saw web-application data breaches on the rise, the PCI DSS was updated to include Requirement 6.6 which helped address the problem.

Only by understanding the patterns of attack can be better help companies repel these forces.

Please also remember that the PCI SSC is contributed to by the Participating Organizations who provide feedback on a regular basis.  If you want to get involved then join as a member.

9. PCI is too much! or PCI sucks!

Let’s all chant together, “Tastes great! Less filling!”  Most people get less 5th grade about it and say, “PCI is too specific” and others say, “PCI is too vague”, while still other cynics claim, “… no, it’s specifically vague!”  Wrong, wrong, wrong.  If PCI is too much then why don’t you just secure your data and call it a day.  If your security foo is so good then validate as such.  Also, remember #5.

Jack Daniel said it this way, “PCI sucks. But it sucks less than doing nothing, which is the normal alternative. Real security would be better. So would unicorns.”  If PCI is painful then I begin to wonder why.  Perhaps you don’t fully understand the scope, intent of requirements, or how to best secure your infrastructure?  Perhaps you understand all these but still cannot achieve compliance due to a flat network topology or other scope issues.  This is when I remind you that the overall intent of the PCI DSS is to prevent the paper and electronic theft of payment card data.  If you can understand and achieve this, then it’s all you need.

10. PCI is not enough!

To this I agree, but not that we need more regulation or more security products.  I think people need to expand their insight into the intent behind the requirements and the standard itself.  In the last paragraph I stated that meeting the intent facilitates compliance.  Let’s take this to the next logical conclusion.

While many security people are happy to help you “carpet bomb security” by securing every system to the 9′s, why don’t we start talking about scope reduction and eliminating systems from scope.  The PCI Answers blog lists for us several product vendors that support end-to-end encryption.  Other people have begun creative ways to remove data from scope instead of securing it.

By removing data from scope, and finding more creative ways of securing the data we do store, we are going well beyond simple compliance into the realm of sound security practices.  The PCI DSS exists as a minimum bar to which those who have little security in place can aspire.

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